Armstrong Clark Oil Based Wood Deck Stains

New Decking and Armstrong Clark Stain

by Administrator

Armstrong Clark is a penetrating oil based stain that will soak deep into the wood grain offering protection from UV graying and water. The advantages to a penetrating deck stain is that they will not peel but rather fade over the years. The key though is proper prep before applying your AC especially if your wood is new.

New “smooth” wood should not be stained right away with Armstrong Clark. A few things need to happen first:

  • The wood should dry out in the climate
  • Exposed layers of wood cells should oxidize slightly
  • Mill glaze needs to be removed
  • Prep after waiting will remove both oxidation and mill glaze

New Decks and Armstrong Clark Stain Tips

The best advice is to not stain your new smooth wood too soon after install but follow these steps:

  1. Install wood and let sit outside for 3-4 months or more if using a transparent or semi-transparent color. If using a semi-solid color, you should wait 12 months.
  2. Once the wood has been exposed, use the Restore A Deck Cleaner and Brightener Kit for prep.
  3. Let the wood dry for 2 or more days after prep.
  4. Apply 1 coat of the Armstrong Clark Stain. Do not over apply.

To maintain your new coat of AC you will most likely need to a light coat in 12-24 months to just the floors or horizontals surfaces. In the future, you will need to reapply AC every 2-3 years for most scenarios or as needed based on your particular traffic and weather.

Important Note: Rough Sawn cut wood can be stained right after install as long as the wood is clean and dry.

How to Calculate Square Footage

Deck Sq. Footage

Flooring Length x width =?

Railing Length x height =?

Steps Width x Depth x #of Steps =?

Add up all 3 for the Total Sq. footage.

Fence Sq. Footage

Length x height =?

Multiply x 2 for both sides = Total Sq. Footage

Coverage Rate for AC Stains

The specified coverage rate for Armstrong Clark is 150-300 square feet per gallon for the first coat on new wood. From this, and from measuring the surface you can calculate how much stain you need. For more aged wood you could easily factor in some extra stain. On newer wood that is still smooth and dense, you probably are not going to use as much.

Note: Hardwood Decking spreads about twice as far. 300-400 sq feet per gallon and only 1 coat.

For maintenance coats you are not going to use near as much stain as you did initially staining bare wood. There are just way too many variables to know the exact coverage rate. There is really no way of knowing exactly how much stain you will need. It is better to buy more than you need than to not have enough. You can always save left over stain for next time. Armstrong Clark has a shelf life of 1 year if opened and 3 years unopened as long as the can is properly resealed.

If you have a question on prepping your need wood or deck, feel free to ask below.

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Amanda
Amanda
4 months ago

Just had a brand new deck built top boards are premium southern pine. I will need to lightly sand some areas to get the stamps off. I assume sand 80-100 grit, brighten and then stain. I plan on using your cedar semi-transparent. I know I must wait at least a month but is there anything else I am missing?

Armstrong
Admin
4 months ago
Reply to  Amanda

You sand stamps now with 60-80 grit and then weather for 3 or more months. Clean and brighten for prep before staining.

Pete
Pete
4 months ago

If I choose the natural colour transparent stain and have that for a couple years on our pressure treated deck, can I paint over that with your semi-transparent rustic brown colour? What prep work would be involved to switch from a transparent light colour to a semi-transparent dark colour? My deck faces faces south and gets full sun the whole day. Should I start with a transparent to showcase the wood or start with semi-transparent to give it decent UV protection right from the start on the new wood?

Armstrong
Admin
4 months ago
Reply to  Pete

If you switch colors, you would strip and brighten. This is very easy and no harder than cleaning—just a deeper clean down to the bare wood. We would suggest starting with semi-transparent colors.

Lorre Jay
Lorre Jay
5 months ago

Does new cedar fence need to cure before applying (amber preferably) stain. We may hit winter if so and will have to wait 6-8 mos.

Armstrong
Admin
5 months ago
Reply to  Lorre Jay

Yes, if smooth wood. No, if rough sawn.

Karen
Karen
5 months ago

I have a new cedar pergola, assembly just finished today. I see, per your article, the recommendation is to wait 3 months, then clean and brighten before stain. The pergola has a metal roof. Are there any concerns I should have for the metal roof with the clean and brighten products since they are sprayed on? Thank you.

Armstrong
Admin
5 months ago
Reply to  Karen

There is no 100% correct way to answer if a reaction will happen or not as there are many varaibles in play. Best to always test an area first.

Nick
Nick
5 months ago

I have a deck built a few years ago. An exotic hardwood “mahogany” deck that started off naturally red toned but after 4 months of sitting untreated it became more brown. I then used AC hardwood mahogany stain, and it brought back out some of the red but definitely more brown. I’ve done soap/bleach wash/scrub and reapplied for past 3 years and looks good overall (not complaining about that) and the wood is not graying (?) but stays same brown. Overall I’m happy just wished the color was more red. Any suggestions for future to bring back the red? I understand that the natural color fades with UV and exposure.

Now I also have some new steps built with same wood. Just installed and currently has that new reddish color especially obvious when wet. Anything I can do to keep that red color? Can I lightly sand and/or use Restore a Deck right away and then apply stain without waiting? Do I use the mahogany color or something else? (I’m willing to reapply sooner than 1 year – very small area!) Thank you!!

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Armstrong
Admin
5 months ago
Reply to  Nick

For the new wood, you have to wait and prep. For the older wood, you may want to remove the current stain to help restore the original color with our Stripper Kit and pressure washing:
https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-stripper

Some of the darkening/more brown over time may be due to dirt and UV.

Then stain all with the AC Mahogany color. You cannot make it any more “red” than that.

Jan Barker
Jan Barker
6 months ago

After staining with a semi transparent stain and then applying a second coat, the wood still looks dry like it needs another coat of stain. What can be done so the wood doen’t look dried out and show the best coloring of the stain.

Armstrong
Admin
6 months ago
Reply to  Jan Barker

We would not suggest adding more than 2 coats. AC stains are not supposed to be shiny as they are penetrating. Over applying will lead to curing issues.

Frank Miracola
Frank Miracola
6 months ago

If I select a colored transparent stain for the new deck, can I use a semi-transparent next year for the re-coat with the same prep (clean & brighten) if needed for additional UV protection?

Armstrong
Admin
6 months ago
Reply to  Frank Miracola

When changing colors you should strip and brighten for prep. Very easy to do and just as easy as cleaning.

Frank Miracola
Frank Miracola
6 months ago

I have a new southern yellow pine PT deck that I finished up a few weeks ago and am researching stains etc. My mill stamps say KD-HT which is kiln dried- heat treated per the mill. Does that make a difference in your 3-4 month wait on a new smooth deck surface?
Will the prep product remove the mill stamps and chalk lines or should I sand first (60-80 grit) Thank you

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Armstrong
Admin
6 months ago
Reply to  Frank Miracola

1-2 months and then the prep. You should sand off the mill stamps now.

Frank Miracola
Frank Miracola
6 months ago
Reply to  Frank Miracola

Thank you for your speedy reply and advice.

Frank Miracola
Frank Miracola
7 months ago

I just completed tearing out and replacing a badly rotted deck with new P/T SYP -southern yellow pine, that is mill stamped KD- HT which means Kiln Dried Heat Treated. My research shows the waiting period is between 1-2 months here on your forum to a year before prepping and staining. I am leaning towards using the AC stain as I see the benefits of oil base over latex but if you would please comment on the waiting time. Thank you for your assist.

Armstrong
Admin
7 months ago
Reply to  Frank Miracola

For KDAT, 1-2 months and then clean and brighten for prep. One coat of stain.

lucy3
lucy3
7 months ago

I had a 12×12 Cedar deck installed in September,2022, in PNW. I put one coat of ReadySeal stain on when deck was new, after prepping with bleach. (As instructed by manufacturer). Restained, after bleaching (per manufacturer advice) again with one coat of ReadySeal early summer, 2023.Restained again with one coat of ReadySeal in May,2024, after prepping with Restore a deck stripper and brightener. Deck is now 1yr and 8 months old. Is it bad that my deck never cured when new?Can I reverse that? I want to switch in summer of 2025 to AC stain. The ReadySeal stain will only last to summer of 2025, because of the one coat. Should I let my deck weather for a couple of years before switching to AC stain ?

Armstrong
Admin
7 months ago
Reply to  lucy3

Just strip and brighten next year and you can switch the the AC stains.

Paul Lebow
Paul Lebow
7 months ago

I have a deck with only 4 years of AC semi-transparent. Looks pretty bad. Green mildew builds up yearly, not much direct sun. (see photos)

I want to re-coat with AC semi-solid. Can I light pressure wash as prep?

A few boards need replacing – I will reapply semi-solid on those boards after a year of oxidizing. Any reason not to?

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Armstrong
Admin
7 months ago
Reply to  Paul Lebow

You will need to strip and brighten to switch to the semi-solid. Very easy to do:
https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-stripper

Jessica Fox
Jessica Fox
7 months ago

So I’m getting a quote for $3000 to sand and strip off the Armstrong stain that I’ve put on the last couple of years and then put a PENOFIN on the wood. Do I need to do this or is power washing the mahagony deck (which is perfectly smooth) Nd then two coats of your stain ok??? Please help!!

Armstrong
Admin
7 months ago
Reply to  Jessica Fox

Penofin is an inferior stain and will turn your mahogany deck black in color. For prep, use the RAD Cleaner and brightener kit and then the AC stain in one of the hardwood colors.

Jessica Fox
Jessica Fox
7 months ago
Reply to  Armstrong

What is RAD? Do you sell it? Do you need a pressure washer? Sorry I am not very handy. I already have your stain but it has been sitting in the shed unopened. Can I just stir it up?

Armstrong
Admin
7 months ago
Reply to  Jessica Fox

RAD Kit: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-kit

Apply and pressure wash off. Brightener is last. Make sure to stir the stain well.

Rose
Rose
7 months ago

Have on covered porch AC mixture of 3 parts transparent to 1 part semi-transparent. Cleaned w TSP, oxiclean, water mixture. Do I have to brighten before using AC again? Also, why did the boards more exposed to the sun get so dark looking? Only did 1 coat. Boards are 11 years old and all was sanded before applying AC. Too old? The vertical posts did not and lasted 3 years. Much thanks.

Armstrong
Admin
7 months ago
Reply to  Rose

You have to clean and brighen when recoating. Brightener alone does not prep for recoating. Sanding is not the best way to prep as it limits stain penetration. I would guess that the exposed wood got “dirty” as your stain may have not been able to soak in fully due to the sanding.

RayG
RayG
7 months ago

Is the 12 month semi solid rule that black and white? Installed some pressure treated stair treads mid October of 2023. Looking to add stain mid/end of June 2024 with Oxford brown. 8 months good enough?

Armstrong
Admin
7 months ago
Reply to  RayG

Yes, 12 months for the semi-solid colors. 3 months for the transparent and semi-transparent colors.

Art Seplak
Art Seplak
8 months ago

I have a just-installed KDAT wood deck. The boards have a reddish- cedar tone color. Before waiting several months before using the single coat of AC stain, do I have to remove whatever the coloring is, or can I just apply the stain over it?

Armstrong
Admin
8 months ago
Reply to  Art Seplak

If it is a surface stain, you need to strip and brighten to remove it. If it is internal and part of the KDAT processing, then clean and brighten.

Armstrong
Admin
8 months ago
Reply to  Armstrong

BTW, with KDAT, you only need to weather for 1-2 months and then the prep. Just one coat of the AC stain.

MJ Ford
MJ Ford
1 year ago

My pine treated deck was built 7 years ago and was weathered 7 months before I put a semi transparent stain on. A few years later I put on a semi solid stain which peeled badly after 18 months. Both stains are Behr from Home Depot. I just stripped the deck, and sanded it but there are a few areas where the solid stain isn’t 100 % removed but close to 90%. I would like to use Armstrong-Clark semi solid after I clean and brighten. Question I have is do I need to wait 12 months to weather since it was sanded down or can I apply new semi sold. I don’t know how to post a pic.

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  MJ Ford

You will need to remove 100% of the Behr stain first before using the AC Stains. If you power sanded, you can stain now as long as you did not sand finer than 80 grit. Make sure to clean and brighten for final prep. Just 1 coat of the AC stain.

MJ Ford
MJ Ford
1 year ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Thank you and thanks for the quick reply.

randy d
randy d
1 year ago

My house redwood shingles were pressure washed but not stripped of previous stain. Stained with sierra redwood not brightened and look great. I then put old new looking never stained redwood shingles on a section and pressure washed and brightened and sierra redwood stained. At the same time i stripped the cedar deck and brightened and applied sierra redwood stain. All were wet on wet. The original unstripped shingles look great. The redwood stained cedar deck looks great. The new section of shingles are very light colored and no where a match for the unstripped shingles and the cedar deck. Yikes. I just want to get the red into the new section of shingles.

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Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  randy d

It is not possible to get new wood to match older wood. The new wood will always stain lighter since it is less absorbent. Adding more stain will proabbly not make it blend better.

Kristen
Kristen
1 year ago

I purchased semi-transparent wood stain to apply to new Tigerwood top railing of deck. Needed to sand off mill marks last week. Was going to next apply stain. Discussion here has me reconsidering. What are your recommendations and timing? Thanks!

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Kristen

You will need to follow the directions for new wood as explained in this article.

Barb B.
Barb B.
1 year ago

Hi I live in Chicago. I had a new cedar deck built, started in mid July, and finished in August. Can I stain it using semi transparent stain at end of October? Im nervous about weathering wood over wet and snowy winter. Could mold and fungus be a problem by spring? Thank you

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Barb B.

Best to wait until spring. It will be fine.

Sergey
Sergey
1 year ago

Hi, I live in Mississauga, Ontario. I installed new deck with thermowood raillings. Can I use AC translusant with tint oil on thermawood?
Thank you in advance.
Sergey.

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Sergey

After weathering and prep, yes. One coat only.

randy d
randy d
1 year ago

Would like to do wet on wet or must i wait one year for second coat?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  randy d

For new wood, only 1 coat.

randy d
randy d
1 year ago

My cedar deck is stained with TWP cedartone. Before i applied the stain i overpower washed in several areas. I now want to sand the deck but TWP after seeing pictures says to strip, brighten and stain. I want to switch to Armstrong Clark Sierra Redwood to match my house or possibly Cedar after a test. How best to proceed?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  randy d

Strip to remove the TWP, sand after if needed with 60-80 grit paper. Brighten last. Only 1 ocat for sanded wood.

Jeff C.
Jeff C.
1 year ago

Hi,
I installed a new Redwood fence in June in Central Valley in California.
Its really hot and dry here. Do I need to wait 3-4 months still before staining typical high temps are around 100
I have also cleaned and brighten the fence already using the RAD product.
I saw on another site it said that I could stain in 2 months from install
Thanks
Jeff

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff C.

Yes, 3 or more months and then clean and brigthen then, not now.

Jane McLaren
Jane McLaren
1 year ago

I stripped and prepared my deck floor removing another stain product, to be stained using AC (used RAD to strip/clean as per directions). We have not yet stained due to the amount of rainy days this year. We now realize we have 7 boards to replace as they warped and will soon be blocking the door’s ability to open. My plan is to stain the rest of the deck and leave the other boards till next spring (3-4 months from now will be too cold to stain). Am I ok to do that leaving the new boards to over winter (I am in Ontario, Canada so that means lots of snow and ice on it without any protection). I don’t want to end up with warped boards again. Is there anything we could /should do to protect it over winter? The other option is to remove and flip the boards but they are starting to split and we are not confident that they will last if we just flip them. thanks.

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jane McLaren

Yes, you can leave them and no, you cannot protect them over the Winter. They need to weather.

Jane McLaren
Jane McLaren
1 year ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Would I be better to just leave the entire deck till spring? It is 6 years old. I just stripped it Sunday (which was when I realized how warped those boards were) Thank you

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jane McLaren

You can. For prep, clean and brigthen in the Spring.

Paul
Paul
1 year ago

Leaning towards AC stain. I had a new pressure-treated pine wood deck built about 1 and a half months ago (upstate SC and it’s July right now). Wood moisture meter is giving reading of around 12% or lower now. 

Questions: 

your tips page for new decks says to wait 3-4 months, but the Internet and the deck builder indicate I can probably go ahead and stain given moisture’s reading low enough. Seems to be conflicting info, so is it safe to stain already or no?

If safe, do I need to prep the PT wood with the Restore-a-Dec cleaner and brightener kit since it’s only been 1 1/2 months? Wasn’t sure if the kit is recommended due to the insinuation it wouldn’t be applied until 3-4 months as your guide says.

Any need to pressure wash it at all in addition, or in lieu, of using the RAD kit?

How long will an opened 5 gallon stain container last for? How long will a non-opened gallon container last for? (will help me decide whether to get 5 gal container or buy single gallons)

Your new deck guide page says 1 coat, but somewhere else on the site says 1 coat but then 2 if it penetrates within 30 minutes; so for a new deck I can do 2 if it penetrates within 30 min? Your stain amount calculator also defaults to assuming 2 coats…

It’s a 14′ by 20′ low deck with partial wrap-around 2 steps…I don’t want to purchase too little stain, but don’t want to purchase too much if it won’t last at least a year to do another coat after the first year.

Thanks, I really appreciate your time to respond to my questions!

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul

Yes, you must wait 3-4 months. Any other advice is incorrect. It is not about moisture % but porosity.

Yes, you have to prep with the kit and pressure washing.

Opened lasts 12 months, unopened about 2-3 years.

Only one coat for new smooth wood.

Jesse G
Jesse G
1 year ago

I tested driftwood grey on green treated lumber for my new deck floor. To get a closer color match to the composite I used on top of the deck rails took two coats. Is it ok to apply two coats and if so, should the 2nd coat be applied wet or after the first dries? Or should I wait another year for the 2nd coat?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jesse G

Only one coat is suggested for new wood. Over applying and it may not be able to fully soak into the wood grain and that could result in curing issues.

Jacob greiner
Jacob greiner
1 year ago

New deck last year, waited 3 months to weather, prepped and stained, but missed the inside of spindles. It’s been almost a year and it gets a ton of direct sun. I already have the stain and should I reapply now? Its already starting to lighten up and I’m think it’s ready. What is the prep process for the 2nd coat?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jacob greiner

See here for prep products for recoating: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-kit

Jeanne Thomas
Jeanne Thomas
1 year ago

I have a Thermory Ash porch floor installed 7 years ago. It was previously stained with Superdeck semi-transparent. If I remove the old stain by sanding, do I need to take any other steps before using your semi-transparent stain?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeanne Thomas

Much easier to strip and brighten for prep compared to sanding: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-stripper

Jeanne Thomas
Jeanne Thomas
1 year ago
Reply to  Armstrong

If it was a deck, I would – but this porch has a solid stucco half wall on 3 sides: there’s no drainage for large amounts of water for rinsing. So is Armstrong Clark not a good product for my application?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeanne Thomas

Yes, it works great but prepping by stripping is easier than sanding.

Vanessa
Vanessa
1 year ago

We just installed new fence – one side is smooth (our side) and the other side is rough. I see that I have to wait 3-4 months for the smooth side to weather to stain it. However the rough is dry and can be stained anytime. Do you recommend to stain the rough side first and can i do it without cleaning and brightening? Or would it be better to stain both sides at same time e.g. so color doesn’t leak through or wood is protected at same time or maybe some other reason? There is a 1/8″ gap between the fench panels. I’m planning to use transparent or semi transparent

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Vanessa

No, prep and stain all at once in 3-4 months. It will bleed through so you cannot do one side at a time.

Char
Char
1 year ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Does both sides need to be prep and stained if done later?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Char

No, just the exposed side.

Char
Char
1 year ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Both sides are exposed.

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Char

If it is exposed then prep and stain.

Heather Christensen
Heather Christensen
1 year ago

We have glulam stairs for our concrete deck. They are east facing so only get morning to mid morning sun. We are in Eastern Washington State, so have all four seasons. Do we need to wait to stain them?

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Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago

Yes.

bill
bill
1 year ago

Hello,

I’m getting a new cedar GARAGE DOOR . The owner of the garage door company and my contractor both said to stain it first BEFORE it is installed. The owner of the garage door company also recommended staining, sanding, and re-staining multiple times.

However, I plan on staining it an Armstrong Clark semi-transparent stain.

Where I live, the Summers will be in the 50s and it’s very foggy.

Should I follow the instructions above, have it installed, wait 3-4 months, clean & brighten, and then stain?

Or can I stain it now? If I stain it now, do I need to also clean and brighten it? (I know all the comments say to do this for decks, but not sure if garage doors are different)

I’d like the wood to look at nice as possible, but it also doesn’t need to be perfect. This is part of a much larger project and I just need this to be done.

A picture of 1 of the 4 panels is attached.

Thank you,
Bill

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Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  bill

Yes, follow the directions here fo new wood, not what your builder states.

bill
bill
1 year ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Thank you for the prompt reply! Some follow up questions / comments:

  • dealer was adamant its easier to stain if I stain the panels before they are installed (There are 4 large panels)
  • can I keep the panels in my backyard for the next few months to let it age, stain, and then have the door panels installed? (If the dry season here now, so it will not be exposed to heavy rain, but will get a lot of moisture via fog)
Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  bill

The wood needs to weather outside fully exposed and then prepped.

bill
bill
1 year ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Thanks for the prompt reply! This site in amazing.

I ran this buy the dealer and builder. The dealer hit me with: “I’ve been doing this 25 years and everyone stains them before they are installed. It’s difficult to get into all the crevices once they are installed”.

Follow up questions:

  • Can I just leave the panels in my backyard for 3 months and then follow the process above?

OR

  • Can I just stain the inside and sides now, install, and then follow the process above the external facing part of the door which from a looks perspective is what I care about.

Thank you,
Bill

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  bill

Just leave outside and prep and stain when ready,

Jane
Jane
1 year ago

Hi my mahogany flooring on my porch with a roof was just installed back in March. It already has some water stains, but I intended to let it weather for 12 months. Will the Deck Cleaner and Brightener Kit remove these water stains? I’m planning to use the Hardwood/Ipe Stain in either Amber or Mahogany.

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Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jane

You probably will need to sand all the wood to get those stains are deep in the wood grain. Prep with the Cleaner and Brightener after.

Tara Otte
Tara Otte
1 year ago

Hello, you’ve helped me this past month and answered a couple of my questions, and I really thank you for getting back to me so quickly. After using the deck cleaner, we got a week straight of rain. Its finally been dry out for 6 days and im ready to stain using your mohagany deck stain. Today suddenly says 24% chance of light showers in the afternoon. Would it be a bad idea to do it, even though it’s 12 amd gorgeous?
Also, wondering what would be the best way to make the plugs, for the holes in my IPE decking, match the wood it’s going into a little more? It’s important to my client, and i’m just not confident whether or not the mohagany stain will blend that or not? Thank you for your time

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Tara Otte

Hard to say with the weather. As for the plugs, never use wood filler on a deck as the stain will not tint the wood filler so it blends.

Steve
Steve
1 year ago

Can I apply your stain if the temps are 55 during the day but drop down to low 40’s at night? or should I wait until the low is above 50?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve

Yes, that is okay.

PATRICK SIMPSON
PATRICK SIMPSON
1 year ago

I am working with RAD, preparing to strip my pine deck of Behr semi-transparent crap. I am planning on using their Paint and Stain remover, per their recommendation. Part of my deck is steps I flipped last fall, so that I could stain the bottoms, that had never been stained. Additionally, I have replaced 8-10 deck boards with treated lumber, all installed last fall. Lastly, I am totally replacing the railings with pressure treated pine and aluminum balusters. I am drying the PT pine in a DIY kiln to remove moisture.

So, given all of that, is it possible for me to use your semi-solid stains? Or, can I use the hardwood stains?? Please advise. Oh, also, RAD says that I do not need a cleaner/brightener after using their paint/stain stripper……

Thanks

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago

To be able to use the Semi-solid colors, new wood needs to season for 1 year. The hardwood colors are designed for hardwoods but can be used on all other wood types. The RAD Paint Strip does not need to be neutralized with a Brightener. The new wood and flipped wood do need to be cleaned and brightened. We would suggest to Strip first and then use the Cleaner and Brightener Kit on all wood to ensure an even porosity of the wood when done.

PATRICK SIMPSON
PATRICK SIMPSON
1 year ago
Reply to  Armstrong

do the hardwood colors also require a year for the new wood??????

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago

3-4 months as the article explains above.

Tara Otte
Tara Otte
1 year ago

We installed new IPE decking last Fall. The contractor stained it shortly thereafter with disregard to directions. It’s now Spring and I’ve fully sanded the deck so that it looks the way it did after install. I took a mild dish soap a lightly scrubbed the deck before spraying it all off. I let it dry for well over 24 hours. Can I now go ahead and stain it without any additional prep work?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Tara Otte

No, you should use the RAD cleaner to open the pores of wood so the stain can soak in correctly. Sanding closes the wood pores:
https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-wood-cleaner

Last edited 1 year ago by Armstrong
Tara Otte
Tara Otte
1 year ago
Reply to  Tara Otte

Thank you, I went ahead and used deck cleaner on the IPE decking with a spray pump yesterday. I want to double check if I can go ahead and stain now without using a brightner, and roughly how long should you wait for the deck to dry after cleaning it? Thank you

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Tara Otte

You should be good to stain. Wait 48 hours.

Isela
Isela
1 year ago

Hello. I am in Iowa. We installed a 14×12 pressure treated wood deck (not sure what kind of wood it is) 1 year 8 months ago (August 2021) . I have done nothing to it since it was installed. Do I need to sand the deck? then do the Restore a Deck cleaner + Brightener Kit. Thank You!

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Isela

Clean and brighten the wood. No need to sand it.

Marty
Marty
1 year ago

I am in Massachusetts. I installed a new(12×32) cedar deck last(2022) fall. From what I have read here I can now stain as soon as it stays above 50 at night. I would use the Restore-a-deck cleaner/brightener. We would choose a semi-transparent cedar stain, either ArmstrongClark or Restore-a-deck. I am most interested in durability, ease of application and maintenance of the stain.

Which stain would be best for our climate?
Best method of application for the cleaner and stain?
Best guess for quantity of stain?
Would I need to use the cleaner/brightener for the maintenance coat?

Thanks.

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Marty

Both stains are excellent and will last the same. Use a sprayer to apply prep. Pressure wash off. Stain pads or brushes for prep. All directions are on site for more info for each product.

Lisa
Lisa
1 year ago

Hello again. You helped me out about a year ago with a new cedar deck that had spent almost nine months in the raw; we stained it with Armstrong semi-transparent cedar stain. Prepped it with Restore-a-Deck cleaner and brightener before applying the stain.Attached are photos of what it looks like after a Chicago winter. When the weather is right, what process should we follow before applying a fresh coat of stain? Thank you!

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Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa

Prep with the cleaner and brighener and recoat.

Lisa
Lisa
1 year ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Thank you. Do you think the stain will last longer this year? The first coat didn’t even make it a full year.

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa

It is normal for new decks to need a recoat after the first year. Going forward, you should get 2 or more years.

Steve
Steve
1 year ago
Reply to  Armstrong

So for recoating after the first yr with a new deck, I would still need to need to wash and brighten, correct?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve

Correct.

Lindsay
Lindsay
1 year ago

If I am using kiln dried wood for a pergola- do I still have to wait a year to use the semi solid stain?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Lindsay

Yes, and prep after.

Jeff
Jeff
1 year ago

I have a pressure treated deck with cedar wall panels that was completed in December 2022. When can (should) I apply the semi-transparent stain for the best results? I live in southeastern Virginia – Chesapeake/Virginia Beach area.

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff

4-12 months after weathering and then prep. The article above explains the prep.

M C
M C
1 year ago

My contractor stained with Armstrong Clark a month after installation. The rustic brown semi transparent color seems to have already faded a little in the 3 weeks after staining. What should I do for best results?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  M C

Remove, weathering, then clean again for prep. Just one coat of stain for new wood.

Heather
Heather
1 year ago

I am replacing a deck with Western Red Cedar that is kiln dried.  It’s December in the PNW.  Just want to be sure that I should NOT do anything to seal/stain this kiln dried wood for the recommended time and let it soak up the rain????  By the way,  I used your advice and stain on the cedar siding of my house after it had been on it for 20 years.  Lots and lots of prep but looks brand new still 10 years after staining.  Really impressed with your stain and knowledge.

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Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Heather

Wait until Spring to prep and stain. Thanks!

Van
Van
2 years ago

What should I use to clean the deck before applying the light coat after 12-24 months on the floors and horizontal surfaces? Semi-trans Cedar.

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Barbara Brodie
Barbara Brodie
2 years ago

I took some 30 plus year old redwood planks and sanded off all the old paint and stain. Can I just apply the sequoia semi solid stain or do I need to do anything special? 

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Barbara Brodie
Barbara Brodie
Barbara Brodie
2 years ago
Reply to 

If it is already very clean and freshly sanded…why do I need to prep it? What will happen if I just apply the stain on the beautiful wood? 

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Barbara Brodie

Sanding is not the proper way to prep as it closes the wood pores. Cleaning and brightening after opens up the wood pores so the stain can absorb properly.

Also, you are not getting out all of the old stain fully and you should prep after to remove more. 

Barbara Brodie
Barbara Brodie
2 years ago
Reply to 

Thank you ? 

Barbara Brodie
Barbara Brodie
2 years ago
Reply to 

I thought the semi solid would cover up any weird coloring. 

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2 years ago

I bought my semi-transparent rustic brown stain last May 2021.  I have not stained the deck yet.  Can i still use the stain??

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to 

Yes, mix well as the pigment does settle.

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2 years ago
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Was hoping that would be your response!  Thanks so much!

R.J. Koshar
R.J. Koshar
2 years ago

I’m having a 48-foot-long Western Red Cedar privacy fence installed this week. Would like to preserve natural cedar color. Should I wait until spring to stain? We live in Wisconsin so there will be snow and ice in next few months. 

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  R.J. Koshar

Yes, wait until Spring to prep and stain. 

Gail
Gail
2 years ago

We have a pine fence that was installed earlier this year. No finish on it. Contractor said wait 3-4 months to let the wood cure. Do we need to wait 12 months to use a semi-solid stain?

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Gail

Yes.

Cynthia Point
Cynthia Point
2 years ago

The contractor wants me to do stain and sealing this year, decks done last month.  There will be a lot of snow and ice this winter, but your recommendation is to wait, what should I do?

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Cynthia Point

Wait.

Cynthia Point
Cynthia Point
2 years ago

How do I know if the redwood of my new deck is rough sawn, or is smooth?

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Cynthia Point

99% of decking is smooth.

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