Armstrong Clark Oil Based Wood Deck Stains

New Decking and Armstrong Clark Stain

by Administrator

Armstrong Clark is a penetrating oil based stain that will soak deep into the wood grain offering protection from UV graying and water. The advantages to a penetrating deck stain is that they will not peel but rather fade over the years. The key though is proper prep before applying your AC especially if your wood is new.

New “smooth” wood should not be stained right away with Armstrong Clark. A few things need to happen first:

  • The wood should dry out in the climate
  • Exposed layers of wood cells should oxidize slightly
  • Mill glaze needs to be removed
  • Prep after waiting will remove both oxidation and mill glaze

New Decks and Armstrong Clark Stain Tips

The best advice is to not stain your new smooth wood too soon after install but follow these steps:

  1. Install wood and let sit outside for 3-4 months or more if using a transparent or semi-transparent color. If using a semi-solid color, you should wait 12 months.
  2. Once the wood has been exposed, use the Restore A Deck Cleaner and Brightener Kit for prep.
  3. Let the wood dry for 2 or more days after prep.
  4. Apply 1 coat of the Armstrong Clark Stain. Do not over apply.

To maintain your new coat of AC you will most likely need to a light coat in 12-24 months to just the floors or horizontals surfaces. In the future, you will need to reapply AC every 2-3 years for most scenarios or as needed based on your particular traffic and weather.

Important Note: Rough Sawn cut wood can be stained right after install as long as the wood is clean and dry.

How to Calculate Square Footage

Deck Sq. Footage

Flooring Length x width =?

Railing Length x height =?

Steps Width x Depth x #of Steps =?

Add up all 3 for the Total Sq. footage.

Fence Sq. Footage

Length x height =?

Multiply x 2 for both sides = Total Sq. Footage

Coverage Rate for AC Stains

The specified coverage rate for Armstrong Clark is 150-300 square feet per gallon for the first coat on new wood. From this, and from measuring the surface you can calculate how much stain you need. For more aged wood you could easily factor in some extra stain. On newer wood that is still smooth and dense, you probably are not going to use as much.

Note: Hardwood Decking spreads about twice as far. 300-400 sq feet per gallon and only 1 coat.

For maintenance coats you are not going to use near as much stain as you did initially staining bare wood. There are just way too many variables to know the exact coverage rate. There is really no way of knowing exactly how much stain you will need. It is better to buy more than you need than to not have enough. You can always save left over stain for next time. Armstrong Clark has a shelf life of 1 year if opened and 3 years unopened as long as the can is properly resealed.

If you have a question on prepping your need wood or deck, feel free to ask below.

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Renee
Renee
5 years ago

If I’m installing kiln dried western red cedar, do I still have to wait for months to stain it?

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5 years ago
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1-2 months for kiln dried and then prep.

Ed
Ed
5 years ago

I just had a gate and section of fence installed that’s Western red cedar. I plan to stain it with Sierra Redwood to match the existing lower section of fence you see on the right hand side of the photo. I just want to confirm that I should wait 3-4 months, then prep with RAD Cleaner and Brightener. I ask because the cedar store owner said to stain right away, and that the cedar is already kiln-dried. Also, 3-4 months will put me in the rainy season. Is it okay to subject to the rain before I get to stain it? Thanks.

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Admin
5 years ago
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When kiln-dried, wait 1-2 months and then prep. Thanks!

Ed
Ed
5 years ago
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Okay, thanks. So with new wood, do I need to use the brightener too in the RAD kit?

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Admin
5 years ago
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Clean and brighten for prep.

mike
mike
5 years ago

I am sanding a yellow cedar deck that was installed three years ago to get the grey wood and mill finish off as well as some leftover semi-solid that is still on the knotts. After I finish the sanding do I need to let it sit prior to stain and or apply any cleaner before stain? tHanks

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  mike

Yes, clean and brighten for prep and then you can stain. Do not sand with a finer grit than 80.

James Landa
James Landa
5 years ago

One final question. While I am waiting 3 months for the deck to cure, Is it Ok to put furniture back on and use it as I would normally before its stained? Thanks Jim

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Admin
5 years ago
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Yes, you can do that.

Jim landa
Jim landa
5 years ago

2 weeks ago in Sonoma County CA, I installed a 1,650 SF con heart redwood deck. I would like to install a spa to sit upon it. Do I need to wait 2 to 4 months for the deck to cure and be stained before I install a spa upon it? Or since the deck will not be exposed to the elements but covered by the spa, can i install it now and stain around it after? Your comments?

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Admin
5 years ago
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Install spa now and stain around it when time is the correct way.

James Landa
James Landa
5 years ago
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Thank you! made my Day!

George
George
5 years ago

I have recently refinished a deck with pressure treated kiln dried after treatment pine. The deck with benches is about 1,000 square feet with 36 feet of railings 3 feet high. How much cleaner and stain will I need?

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  George

You will need to let the new wood season. Kiln-dried is 1-2 months: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/new-decking-and-armstrong-clark-stain

Just one coat of stain. Two prep kits and 10 gallons of stain will be enough.

Shawn
Shawn
5 years ago

I’ve been using AC semi-transparent cedartone stain on my cedar dock. I’ve noticed, however, that black areas and blotches are forming apparently under the stain. Is this mold/mildew? I stained the wood immediately after purchase and prior to assembly of the dock. I like the look of this stain and a lot of research went into selecting it. But the black areas really detract from the appearance and look very ugly. Is there something I can do to fix this?

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Shawn

Post a picture. It could be mildew, rust, other things. AC does contain a mildewcide to prevent eh growth of milder in the stain.

Melissa
Melissa
5 years ago

Hi, We started to installed a new pressure treated deck about 6 months ago and finished the entire project about 2 months ago. I am looking for a natural look, no color change really (I am ok with weathered look). What I want is to protect the wood from direct sun and water damage . Which of your products would you recommend?

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Melissa

Use the Natural color.

Patrick Whelan
Patrick Whelan
5 years ago

Last summer we installed cedar decking from a local mill on Cortes Island, BC. It was sanded and stained 3 sides before installation.

Hoping for maximum life, should I re-coat the tops this year? If so what prep should be done? I don’t want to disturb the original coat but want the second coat to bond.
Also, is it an advantage to coat all 4 sides or should the wood be allowed to “breathe” from the bottom. Storage only below.

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Patrick Whelan

No need to stain all sides. If the coating looks good on the tops then do nothing this year and recoat next year.

GP
GP
5 years ago

I am building a new pergola with Western Red Cedar. Unfortunately, some of the boards are different ages and slightly different colors. I tested the amber stain on two boards of different ages and there is a difference in color. I don’t mind some variation in color, but would using the cleaner or brightener first, before staining, reduce the variation? The intent is to stain prior to assembly.

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Admin
5 years ago
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It may help some but the main difference it porosity. More absorbent means darker.

GP
GP
5 years ago
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Will letting the newer wood sit outside for several months before application reduce the difference in color?

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Admin
5 years ago
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It should help some.

George
George
5 years ago

I just resurfaced an old deck using pressure treated pine kiln dried after treatment. How long should I wait to stain. I assume I should clean before to get the mill sheen off. Correct? I would like a natural wood color and grain to show through but have some uv protection too. Do you suggest transparent or semi-transparent. I will be ordering some samples. Do you have any suggestions of which ones? Thanks

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  George

Wait 3+ months and prep as the articles explains. Go with semi transparent.

Brian
Brian
5 years ago

I just installed new floor PT decking but left my original stained railing with lattice. I live in Pittsburgh and deck is in mostly sun. Two questions.

If I wait 3-4 months we would be in late Oct/Nov and weather could be iffy by then. Should i stain it then or wait till spring? Looking at transparent natural tone.

How should I clean the older railing/lattice before I stain this as well?

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Waiting until spring will be fine if the weather does not cooperate in October/November. If the stain on the lattice and railings is a different brand of stain, then it will need to come off. If the stain is AC, then clean and brighten for the prep.

Dawn
Dawn
5 years ago

Hello, We installed an Ipe deck a few weeks ago (finished at the end of June). We live in CT and the deck is fully exposed to the sun most of the day. None of the painters we can find are familiar with Ipe, so I was so happy to find your product and website. The deck is already fading slightly, so I want to be sure I understand exactly what needs to be done. (1) Were going to use your mahogany semi-transparent stain, so we wait until September or October, use the clean and prep, wait two days (making sure it doesn’t rain over those two days), and then apply a light coat of the stain. Is this all correct? I’m so afraid it will turn gray over those months, and I’ll never get the brown color back, even using the stain. (2) On the ends of some of the boards, there are dark stains from oil the builder said was put on at the saw mill when it was cut. Should those areas be sanded so it looks like the rest of the wood or will the clean and prep remove that discoloration? But sanding shouldn’t be done on the entire deck, and it doesn’t need to be power-washed before the clean and prep; it just needs to be swept prior to that step, correct? (3) What is best to use to apply the stain, a brush or a sponge and no wiping of the stain should be done? (4) Finally, this whole process will have to be repeated every 12 months? Thank you for your help.

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Dawn

1. Yes, correct.
2. Spot sand off now.
3. Apply with stain pad, No back wiping.
4. Yes.

Dawn
Dawn
5 years ago
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Thank you so much for your help

Dawn
Dawn
5 years ago
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I have one more question. If I had to wait until April or May (10-11 months) to prep/stain my new Ipe deck, would that be ok or is it too long to wait because I’m using the semi-transparent stain?

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Dawn

You will be fine to wait until Spring.

Kelly
Kelly
5 years ago

I have two separate decks. The one deck is two and a half years old PTP. We stained with semi-transparent Cabot. The newer deck is just over a year old and has not been stained yet. We are planning on stripping the old deck of Cabot for the AC. Do I need to by separate cleaner for the new deck or can I just use the stripper/brightener on the new deck too to prep it to stain both decks?

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Kelly

Use the Cleaner, not the Stripper for the unstained deck.

Christine
Christine
5 years ago

We have just installed a large deck in NC. It is PT wood. It was started on June 14 and completed July 6. Painter is recommending staining in mid August. Sounds like too soon. Some concerns are about stamping on some of the wood. Can we sand that off? And, if we wait to stain, the leaves falling and leaving imprints on wood (my sister had this problem). House is a light tan color and I was thinking of mahogany?

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Admin
5 years ago
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Sand stamps now, let weather for 3+ months, clean and brighten, then stain.

Try some sample colors: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/samples

Christine
Christine
5 years ago
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Forgot to mention that part of the deck is covered. Do I need to wait longer since that area doesn’t get much sun/rain like the uncovered part? Can I stain all at once?

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Christine

Do it all at once.

Brian
Brian
5 years ago

I have a 16’x25′ deck which I recently added 4′ to included in the deck size. I also replaced 7 16′ boards in the older portion of the deck. I have planed and sanded each board with 50 grit grit sand paper using a belt sander. Can I use semi transparent stain now or do I have to wait? The deck gets full sun all day long.

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Wait for 1-2 months. Clean and brighten for final prepping of the wood. Stain with one coat of stain.

Brian
Brian
5 years ago
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Thanks. When restaining in a couple of years. What prep is needed?
Would the process be different if I decided on a solid stain?

Thanks again

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Brian

AC does not come in a solid stain. Prep by cleaning and brightening for reapplications.

Brian
Brian
5 years ago
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Thanks!

Doug
Doug
5 years ago

I had a raised deck stained with Benjamin Moore oil based penetrating stain and I made a mistake of not removing the mill glaze everywhere. I did however sand some areas. A harsh winter latest the semi transparent stain is peeling especially in areas when my sand paper became dull. I want to use AC now and the Ben Moore guys are telling me to sand my entire deck again both horizontal and vertical surfaces.

Im reading here that restore a deck cleaner and brightness remove the mill glaze? If I use the stain remover product from restore a deck before the cleaner and brighter would that bring my cedar deck back to a stage where I can apply AC without sanding?

i also have a paver patio underneath my deck and want to avoid damaging the pavers with harsh chemicals, any advise how to do the proper prep for my situation ?

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Doug

You have to remove the BM and that means stripping: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-stripper

Then the wood brightener. Possibly some sanding as well when done. The Mill Glaze will come off when you strip off the BM.

Nick
Nick
5 years ago

You said that I should do a light coat in 12-24 months to just the floors or horizontals surfaces. Do I need to clean the deck before I do the light coat? If so, do I use the restore a deck?

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick

Yes, clean with the RAD cleaner.

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5 years ago

I recently ordered and received a gallon of AC semi-transparent cedar stain and see in the instructions on the can it is suggested to call you if the deck to be stained has less than 18″ ground clearance. Mine is a “floating” deck on 2″x6″ cross members which sit on a sealed rubber membrane on an enclosed balcony . There is a sufficient drain outlet to rain gutters and no air circulation problem .

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Admin
5 years ago
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You will be fine after the wait and prep.

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5 years ago
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Perfect , thanks

Kim
Kim
5 years ago

Thanks for all the info on your site. So what do you recommend doing if I am refinishing my deck (for prep I’m using the diamabrush to sand and be rid of behr deck-over currently there, then using RAD brightener) and replacing a board or two that has warped? I can’t wait the 3-4 month to do the whole deck with semi transparent or 12 mos for semi solid on these two or three planks, as I’d like to get the deck done now. Thanks for your help.

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Admin
5 years ago
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If you go ahead and stain without weathering or prepping the few new boards, you will have to apply another coat to those new boards next Spring.

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5 years ago

In late December 2018, built cumaru fence in South Florida. 390 linear feet. Going to stain both sides on most of fence. Total stain surface is 3750 sq ft. How much mahogany stain do I need. How much/many Restore a Deck Cleaner and Brightener kits needed? Instead of the Cleaner/Brightener, can we prep with 1 part bleach/3 parts water, with some soap? What is turn around time for shipping? Intend to spray stain and then brush, any suggestions Thanks

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Admin
5 years ago
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Do no use bleach for prep, use the RAD Kits. Bleach is bad for wood. You will need:

4-5 of the RAD Cleaner/Brightener Kits.
12-15 Gallons of the stain. This will vary based on the wood porosity.

Shipping to FL takes about 3-5 business days.

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Admin
5 years ago
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AC cannot be pump sprayed, you can use an airless sprayer.

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5 years ago
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Is the Stain estimate for one or two coats.

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Admin
5 years ago
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One coat for cumaru. Coverage for exotic hardwoods is between 300-400 sq feet per gallon.

Dave F
Dave F
5 years ago

I am cleaning my 12 year old deck with a Diamabrush tool made for removing all old paint and stains. This tool leaves a like new wood surface when done. Would this surface then be ready for your semi solid AC deck stain?

I have replaced several of the deck boards and I see that you recommend waiting 12 months before applying your semi solid deck stain to new treated lumber. I noticed that it is OK to apply to rough sawn wood right away. The surface that the Diamabrush leaves is not rough sawn, but it also is not smooth.

Here’s my question – If I were to “rough up” the surface finish of the new treated wood deck boards with the Diamabrush, would this reduce the time I would have to wait before staining the new deck boards?

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Admin
5 years ago
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Yes, it would definitely help. Can you post a picture?

Andy
Andy
5 years ago

I have new treated lumber railing with a Trex deck and top cap on the railing. The decking and railing were installed last August, And they have been through a northern Ohio winter. Will the cleaner and brightener harm the Trex decking? Is it too early to go ahead with the cleaner and Breitner and then stain, or must I wait until August (12 months from installation).

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Admin
5 years ago
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No, the prep products will not harm the Trex. You can prep and stain now unless using the semi-solid.

Andy
Andy
5 years ago
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I am sorry, I should have clarified that I did plan to use the semi solid stain. I take it from your response that I will need to wait until August (a full 12 months) to stain the railings, despite the somewhat harsh weather of Cleveland

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Admin
5 years ago
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Yes, correct.

Allen
Allen
5 years ago

We are using a #4 rough sawn pine for our board and batten siding. Most will be out of direct sun, however, one gable end will be exposed to full sunlight.

#1. Should we let the siding age & weather before applying any stain?
#2. What product is the best to use on the #4 rough sawn pine?
#3. What maintenance can we expect if using your product?
#4. Do you recommend using a sealer?

Thanks in advance!!

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Admin
5 years ago
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1. If rough sawn you can stain right away.
2. Any color that you like will work.
3. Clean and recoat as needed.
4. No, you can not apply a sealer over a deck stain.

Loren
Loren
5 years ago

I live in a historic home in Northern Virginiaon and have newly installed a tongue and groove mahogany floor on my covered porch. I love the color and wish to maintain as close to possible the original look. It’s covered, but the edges and steps are exposed to the sun and elements. I’m looking at your hardwood/ipe stain, but curious how long I should wait. I’m concerned the wood will age unevenly, with the exposed parts fading more severely than the coverd areas. If I hand sand the surface can I apply now, or would I still need to wait?

Thank you!

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Admin
5 years ago
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3-4 months and then prep with the Restore A Deck Cleaner and Brightener kits. This will even out the aging if any. You cannot apply now.

Chad
Chad
5 years ago

Hello, I replaced and expanded my pressure treated deck last summer. Planning to stain with one of your semi-transparent products this summer, but we’re debating on the right color. I ordered 4 samples so far, and comments are open for Facebook friends. My question is: how much of a commitment is the color selection? When I stain it again in 3 years, can I change the color easily or would it involve a lot of sanding? Thanks

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Admin
5 years ago
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If you want to switch colors you will need to strip. It comes off easily with this: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-stripper

Curly
Curly
5 years ago

Can I use a percarbonate based cleaner rather than the oxalic acid based RAD product on a 10 month old pressure treated pine deck?

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Curly

Restore A Deck Cleaner is a sodium percarbonate based cleaner, not oxalic. It is much more effective than other brands.

sue
sue
5 years ago

We just installed one month ago, a pine pressure treated deck and want to use your gray semi-transparent stain to finish. I understand we need to wait 3-4 months to apply. The railing on the deck is 4×4 pt posts which we intend to run horizontal ss wire in between. Could we stain the posts now? prior to installing the stainless cable and tensioners? do you know of any effect that the stain will have if in contact with the stainless hardware? Thank you

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  sue

No, you have to wait. If you get any stain on the cables, wipe them clean right away. It will come off.

Shannon
Shannon
5 years ago

I am making new exterior shutters and have decided on tongue in groove kiln dried pine deck flooring for the wood. Do I need to wait to stain? I was hopingto stain before assembling the batten and board syle for best protection for the wood. I also need to clean the wood to get the mill glaze off? Thank you!

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Shannon

Yes, 1-2 months of exposed weathering for kiln dried wood. Prep as well first to remove the mill glaze.

Kit
Kit
5 years ago

hello! I have a new deck being installed in Georgia, using PT Pine Yella Wood, full sun until about 1:00pm, we get a fair amount of rain also. Yella woods website says you should stain within 6 weeks–your thoughts?
I was thinking of using Armstrong semi transparent. Any recommendations you have would be great, thanks

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Admin
5 years ago
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No on the 6 weeks. It has to weather for the 3 months and be prepped like the article states.

Paul O'Donnell
Paul O'Donnell
5 years ago

I am installing several mahogany decks. Why do you recommend waiting 3-4 mo before staining? Won’t the intense UV start to bleach the wood in that time period. Why not stain after installation?

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Paul O'Donnell

If you stain after install the stain will not soak in. When you weather the wood, it will be much more absorbent when time to stain. The prep will remove any oxidation and mill glaze after the weathering.

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5 years ago

Our homes previous owner used either a paint or solid stain – we have cleaned the flaky parts off but have not cleaned it back to wood – what product would you suggest to use?

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Admin
5 years ago
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You will have to sand this paint off before using the Armstrong Clark.

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5 years ago
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Thanks…ugggg lol

Theresa
Theresa
5 years ago

I can’t seem to find the directions for measuring the deck for buying the correct amount of product.

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Admin
5 years ago
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Right hand side if you are on a desktop.

deanne english
deanne english
5 years ago

Just had tight knot red cedar deck installed in February, plan on staining in late may. I have help for 2 days.
1) does using an oil based stain stop any cracking in the wood where the screws are? I would rather use a water base and the information online varies widely.
2) The Restore-a-deck products have good reviews (just under you) and you can clean, brighten and stain in 2 days with their water based stain. Is this a good idea for a new deck?
3) Why do you think I should use an oil base? What are the befits to the wood and longevity?

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  deanne english

1. No. No deck stain can stop cracking of the wood. Does not matter the base. This is normal for exterior wood and is not an issue.
2. You can use the RAD for new wood as well.
3. Oil-based stains can be easier to apply and penetrating deeper. The AC can be cleaned and reapplied as needed. No need to strip.

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5 years ago

I installed a new PT pine deck last July, and now it’s time to stain. You state the mill glaze needs to be removed prior to cleaning and staining. Additionally, there are mill markings on several pieces of decking. Should the entire deck and railings be sanded? If so, is a belt sander and what grit? Are other types of sander OK ?

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Admin
5 years ago
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The cleaner removes the mill glaze. It will not remove the stamps. Those will need to be sanded off. Spot sand those now with 60-80 grit, let weather for 3-4 more weeks to even out the porosity than clean and brighten the wood with this: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-kit

Mike H.
Mike H.
5 years ago

Hi –
I’ve done a lot of research and can’t wait to use your product(s) on my pressure-treated pine deck and fence; however, I’m wondering if I need to put an abrupt pause on the projects. My fencing is definitely rough sawn cut but I’m not sure about my deck; however, I think my decking is “smooth” sawn because of its appearance. Anyway, just yesterday in fact, I started going over the fencing planks with an orbital sander to remove the “fuzzy” areas and imperfections BUT it seems after reading on this site that I didn’t need to/ shouldn’t have. Did I just delay my semi-solid staining out further? I was planning to paint the fence by month’s end. I live in Syracuse, NY. The fence was installed last June/July and thought I was close enough to the 12 month wait period.

Regarding the deck, that staining project was going to be a family endeavor planned next month. I believe it’s okay to stain any time now, right? Unless, of course, we use a semi-solid stain. I was going to go with the semi-solid stain – same as the fence “Oxford Brown” but now I’m wondering if we should instead go with a semi-transparent stain. We have a pool attached to the deck, not sure that matters but… If semi-transparent is the way to go do you have “Oxford Brown” or something similar in semi-transparent?

Thank you,
Mike

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike H.

Decks are always smooth. Wait until June/July and clean and prep. The fence should be fine by then. You can stain the deck now unless using the semi-solid. Either semi-trans or semi-solid will be fine for the deck.

Mike
Mike
5 years ago
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Thank you for the advice. Should I also use the Restore A Deck Cleaner and Brightener Kit for prep for the fence?

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Yes, that is correct.

Mike
Mike
5 years ago
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Hopefully my last questions. Thanks again for all of your help and patience. My fencing is 256 linear feet and the height is 6 feet. Multiplying both gives me my square footage, right? That comes to 1,536 sq. ft. For both sides of the fence I’m looking at 3,072 sq. ft. How many gallons of semi-solid (Oxford Brown) do I need? My deck is 16×16 and we plan on using the same Oxford Brown (railing will be done in a different color). We plan on staining the beams and underside of deck floor. Is 2 gallons plenty?

Thanks again for everything.

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

About 15 gallons for the 1 coat on the fence. 2-3 gallons for the deck.

David
David
5 years ago

Hello, we stained last spring and it’s just about time to apply the light second coat as suggested in the directions above. What kind of prep is required before this second coat? Do I need to use the cleaner and brightener? Thanks

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Admin
5 years ago
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Clean and brighten for prep.

John Fagg
John Fagg
5 years ago

I have a new deck surface of treated yellow pine. It was installed last September. I am looking at the semi-transparent in the gray? Any problems with this? What steps to take?

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Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  John Fagg

Follow the steps in the above article when it comes to prep and application of one coat. Nothing else is needed.

Jason
Jason
5 years ago

I am having new cedar deck boards installed this week. It seems like from the answers I’ve read here, we should wait to stain. I have read A LOT of conflicting things online about cedar specifically. Some saying wait like you suggest and some saying cedar is fine to stain soon after as long as it is dry. We live in Oregon and I really can’t guarantee really warm and dry weather until about June-ish. Even when it is dry here, it’s moist in the air until the summer. It seems like waiting to stain until then would be the best idea. If I do, can my hot tub sit on the unstained deck until this summer? We will empty the tub and move it to stain half and then dry, then move it back and stain the other half. Any further guidance would be awesome. Thanks.

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Admin
5 years ago
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You have t let new wood weather. It does not matter the wood type. Just stain around the hot tub when time to do it. No reason to move it or stain underneath it as it will always be in the same place.

Jennifer Long
Jennifer Long
5 years ago

We plan to install a cedar ceiling on our front porch. The contractor is stating that there is no need to clean/prep this wood or let it weather prior to staining because it is new wood. In reading your directions I note that both is needed. He wants to stain prior to install. What are your thoughts??

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Admin
5 years ago
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He is incorrect. If you do not follow the directions for new wood, the stain will not perform properly and or cure correctly.

Jennifer
Jennifer
5 years ago
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He is wanting to stain prior to install since it will be on the ceiling. Will it be OK for the wood to stay in his garage of should it be installed to weather? Also, we ordered cedar but after staining them to try and pick a stain I am having a hard time getting the look I was actually going for. Wondering if redwood was actually what we should have ordered. The picture on your site of the modern cedar home with modern glass/metal garage door is the look I would like. What stain do you recommend…..semi transparent cedar or the chestnut color? Thank you so much.

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Admin
5 years ago
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Needs to weather fully exposed and then prepped before staining.

Colors will vary drastically based on the wood type and age. There is not a way to guarantee or even suggest a color without trying samples on your wood. Have you seen our gallery?

https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/armstrong-clark-photo-album

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5 years ago

Two questions, 1) Can I use the chestnut semi transparent stain on IPE? 2) I am building a new deck and temperatures are and I want to prestain the boards before installing them. Can I prep them by sanding versus leaving them outdoors to weather?

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5 years ago
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1. No, it is not one of the colors designed for IPE. Use the Mahogany.
2. No. The wood has to naturally weather and cleaned/brightened for the prep. Do not sand for the prep as the will create issues with stain absorption into the wood.

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5 years ago
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I really want to pre-stain the decking before installing as the ends will stick under the siding on both sides for most of the deck as it is between the house and a freestanding garage. So if I install unstained I will not be able to stain the ends and it will be messy staining up close to the siding. When you say sanding will create issues with stain absorption into the wood, what are the issues?, as I tested this approach on a number of boards and did not see any problem yet? I’m interested in getting the decking installed now versus waiting, so allowing it to weather is not really an option I want to do. If I end up having to re-stain in the summer, I am ok with that. What do you think?

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5 years ago
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You cannot pre-stain or speed up the natural weathering process. Staining without following the correct directions will most likely result in premature product failure and curing of the stain. This could lead to wearing of the stain and or rubbing off on clothes and shoes. There is not a way to speed up this natural weathering process. The ends cuts are very absorbent though. You can go ahead and stain those end cuts that will be near the house/garage. Then install the deck, let it naturally weather for the 3-4 months, and then stain the exposed deck wood.

jrutenbar
jrutenbar
5 years ago
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OK, I will let it weather, but two more questions. 1) Should I stain the underside of the decking? 2) Is it ok to sand out imperfections like machining marks or gouges on the surface of the deck boards? FYI, thanks for the help/advice.

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Admin
5 years ago
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No need to stain the undersides of a deck. If you need to sand any spots, do this now prior to the natural weathering.

Jeff Woodward
Jeff Woodward
6 years ago

I am building an old fashion (no nails) post and beam style 14 X 26 ft. cover out of rough cut cedar for our airstream. Any advice for staining the cedar ceiling?

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Admin
6 years ago
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Nothing more than what is stated in the article. Rough sawn can be stained right away as long as it is clean and dry.

dave Johnson
dave Johnson
6 years ago

Hi, We installed a new redood deck in august and seem to be running out of time to get it finished before winter. We’re now considering letting the deck go unfinished over the winter and stain in the spring. It’s my understanding that this will be fine, letting it weather a bit more. Will it be alright to let it go unfinished over the mild sacramento CA. winter? We have already bought 10 gallons of your stain, cleaner and brightener, but the days are getting short and the dew is pretty severe all morning.

Looking forward to your response,

thanks, Dave Johnson in california

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Admin
6 years ago
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Yes, no issues waiting until Spring.

Jayson
Jayson
6 years ago

Im building a deck out of kiln dried (kdat) pine. How long should I wait before staining.

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6 years ago
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About a month after install for KDAT. Clean and brighten the wood for prep and stain with 1 coat of the AC.

al
al
6 years ago

we are going to install new redwood smooth cedar shiplap siding. For convenience and cost we wanted to get it factory finished on all 6 sides which is what our lumber dealer thinks is best. Can Armstrong be used for that as a final coat or primer coat? Or does it have to be used only later after install? What would be the best techniques for that?

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6 years ago
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Only after install. Wood needs to weather and be prepped.

Alison
Alison
6 years ago

I am installing a new ipe deck on a dock in Florida. So many distributors of ipe recommend sealing immediately after installation with ipe oil or similar product to protect wood and prevent color change. Some sites recommend sealing both sides of wood before installation with oil and also sealing cut ends with wax. Could you please address these suggestions? As I mentioned, my dock is in Florida and currently it is raining almost daily. Also, I want to try to prevent my wood from cupping. Also, how should I clean it after it is installed. The area around the dock can get muddy. Thank you.

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Admin
6 years ago
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You cannot stain the IPE right away. Wait the few months and then clean and brighten the wood. No need to stain all sides as well.

Prep with this kit: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-kit

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6 years ago

We’ve installed a post and beam outdoor cedar structure with rough sawn wood. It’s been there a month or two. The wood is clean and dry – will we need to use the Cleaner and Brightener in this situation?

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6 years ago
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No need if rough sawn wood.

evie
evie
6 years ago

My 3 month old covered porch floor is made out of regular (not treated) tongue and groove pine. Should I let it set without stain for a harsh Pennsylvania winter?

evie

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6 years ago
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You can do it now. Prep first and only one coat of the AC.

Alan
Alan
6 years ago

Thanks for your quick response. I have one final question. As a retired cabinetmaker, my experience with stain has been, apply (oil base stain), let stand and wipe off excess. On a deck that would be quite a chore. Is deck stain excess wiped off, or allowed to stand?

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